AMD's Winter Update: Athlon II X3 455, Phenom II X2 565 and Phenom II X6 1100Tby Anand Lal Shimpi on December 7, 2010 12:01 AM EST
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AMD is usually pretty aggressive with turning process tweaks and yield improvements into new products. Just two months ago AMD gave us the Athlon II X3 450 and the Phenom II X2 565, today we're getting speed bumps of both of those parts. The Athlon II X3 455 runs at 3.3GHz, up from 3.2GHz and costs the same $87. You get an additional 100MHz for free. The chip hasn't changed otherwise. You get a quad-core die with one core disabled, no L3 cache and a 512KB L2 per core.
At $87 this part competes head to head with Intel's Pentium G6950. The Athlon II X3 450 mopped the floor with the G6950 in our last review, and the speed bumped 455 will be no different in this review. If you CPU budget is right around the $80 - $90 mark, AMD has you covered.
The Phenom II X2 565 is an unlocked Black Edition part, also identical to its predecessors. Here you have a quad-core die with two cores disabled, a 512KB L2 per core and a shared 6MB L3. The 565 runs at 3.4GHz, up from 3.3GHz, but the clock increase comes with a $10 price increase.
The 565 goes up against Intel's Core i3 540 and 550 processors. The comparison here is less clear cut. In the case of the Athlon II X3, you get more cores for the same money which really helps AMD out. The 565 by default doesn't give you any more cores, all you get is a higher clock speed and a larger L3 cache. But you lose out on IPC, threaded performance and power consumption. While AMD easily wins between $80 - $90, around $110 - $120 the choice moves back towards Intel. There is just one more thing however.
Both the Athlon II X3 and Phenom II X2 are made from harvested die. As we've seen in the past, these harvested die aren't always bad. In the case of the Phenom II X2 we've seen a number of CPUs with disabled cores that could just as easily be re-enabled. Armed with ASUS' M4A89GTD Pro/USB 3 890GX motherboard I tried to see if I could enable any of the disabled cores on the two samples AMD sent me.
In the case of the Athlon II X3, enabling the fourth core wasn't a problem. ASUS' Core Unlocker enabled it and the system was just as stable as before, now with four fully functional cores. I could even overclock the four cores just as far as I could overclock the chip with only three cores enabled.
I managed to get three working cores on the Phenom II X2, however I couldn't boot into Windows 7 with the fourth core enabled.
A Phenom II X2 565: Overclocked and with one additional core unlocked
In the case of the $87 Athlon II X3 turning into an $87 Athlon II X4, you can't get better than that. Your mileage will most definitely vary. I've had Phenom II X2s that would work as quad core parts, triple core parts and refuse to work at all above two cores. The same goes for the Athlon II line. You can't count on core unlocking working, but if it does, it's great additional value.
The Phenom II X6 1100T
The six-core Phenom II X6 gets a speed bump as well. The 1100T increases default clock speeds from 3.2GHz to 3.3GHz, and increases Turbo Core frequency from 3.6GHz to 3.7GHz. Turbo Core is only supported on Thuban based processors (currently only Phenom II X6s) and increases operating frequency if half or fewer cores are actively in use.
The bigger news here is the 1100T reflects AMD's new Phenom II X6 pricing:
|Processor||Clock Speed||L2 Cache||L3 Cache||TDP||Price|
|AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE||3.3GHz||3MB||6MB||125W||$265|
|AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE||3.2GHz||3MB||6MB||125W||$235|
|AMD Phenom II X6 1075T||3.0GHz||3MB||6MB||125W||$199|
|AMD Phenom II X6 1055T||2.8GHz||3MB||6MB||125W||$195|
|AMD Phenom II X4 970 BE||3.5GHz||2MB||6MB||125W||$185|
|AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE||3.4GHz||2MB||6MB||125W||$165|
|AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE||3.2GHz||2MB||6MB||125W||$145|
|AMD Phenom II X2 565 BE||3.4GHz||1MB||6MB||80W||$115|
|AMD Phenom II X2 560 BE||3.3GHz||1MB||6MB||80W||$105|
|AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE||3.2GHz||1MB||6MB||80W||$93|
|AMD Athlon II X4 645||3.1GHz||2MB||0MB||95W||$122|
|AMD Athlon II X4 640||3.0GHz||2MB||0MB||95W||$100|
|AMD Athlon II X3 455||3.3GHz||1.5MB||0MB||95W||$87|
|AMD Athlon II X3 450||3.2GHz||1.5MB||0MB||95W||$87|
|AMD Athlon II X3 445||3.1GHz||1.5MB||0MB||95W||$76|
|AMD Athlon II X2 265||3.3GHz||2MB||0MB||65W||$76|
|AMD Athlon II X2 260||3.2GHz||2MB||0MB||65W||$69|
|AMD Athlon II X2 255||3.1GHz||2MB||0MB||65W||$66|
At $265 this puts the 1100T between the Core i5 760 and the Core i7 860. While the Core i7 860 still has the edge in some of our tests, the 1100T is within striking distance and cheaper. In heavily threaded apps, the 1100T's six cores really come in handy and give AMD the win. Combine the two and you can get a better value. However Intel still holds the advantage in lightly threaded scenarios thanks to the i5/i7 aggressive turbo modes.
To keep the review length manageable we're presenting a subset of our results here. For all benchmark results and even more comparisons be sure to use our performance comparison tool: Bench.
We've moved all of our AMD CPU testing to the 890GX platform. While nearly all numbers are comparable you may occasionally see some scaling that doesn't quite add up compared to lower clocked versions of the same chips running on a previous motherboard.
|Motherboard:||ASUS P7H57DV- EVO (Intel H57)
Intel DP55KG (Intel P55)
Intel DX58SO (Intel X58)
Intel DX48BT2 (Intel X48)
ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 (AMD 890GX)
|Chipset Drivers:|| Intel 188.8.131.525 (Intel)
AMD Catalyst 8.12
|Hard Disk:||Intel X25-M SSD (80GB)|
|Memory:|| Corsair DDR3-1333 4 x 1GB (7-7-7-20)
Corsair DDR3-1333 2 x 2GB (7-7-7-20)
|Video Card:||eVGA GeForce GTX 280 (Vista 64)
ATI Radeon HD 5870 (Windows 7)
|Video Drivers:||ATI Catalyst 9.12 (Windows 7)
NVIDIA ForceWare 180.43 (Vista64)
NVIDIA ForceWare 178.24 (Vista32)
|Desktop Resolution:||1920 x 1200|
|OS:||Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit (for SYSMark)
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
Windows 7 x64
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8steve8 - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkkind of surprised sandy bridge wasn't even mentioned in the conclusions...
considering these cpus will only be competing with the westmeres for less than a month before sandy bridge is everywhere...
AMD seems to only be able to compete on price, kind of sad.
It'll likely not change as long as Intel is >18 months ahead in terms of process technology used in fabrication.
Calin - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkThis opens the door for another article comparing the Sandy Bridge processors (when they will be available) to the current (for now) offerings. I'm too waiting for the Sandy Bridge launch (but I probably won't buy one)
semo - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkIntel is still selling C2Ds. What makes you think SB will be everywhere any time soon? Intel are always slow with their new releases (not easy supplying the whole globe I would think).
vol7ron - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkDoesn't the US come first?
Einy0 - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkThink again... Almost all tech companies release products in Asia first.
SandmanWN - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkErrr "leaked" their first.
misfit410 - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkI think there is more to it than just price, Intels issue is how fragmented it's market is right now, I like to start with a cheap build, mid range CPU and know I have upgrade options, if I did an AMD Dual Core right now I know that I can go to a 6 Core later for some great performance when it's economically possible.
If I go i3, I have very few upgrade options, need a new motherboard for i5, then If I want to move up from there yet another motherboard for i7..
I personally think this was the worst way to go about covering all areas of the market.
BSMonitor - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkExcept if you went Lynnfield right now, you would already be ahead of AMD's fastest 6-core offering. And much cheaper than buying a $100 processor now, with another $200 processor later.
And to the other guy, Intel ramps slowly? Uhhh, not really. Core i7 has been around for 2 years now. In its many flavors. The reason Core 2 Duo still sells... It is actually MUCH faster than that Athlon II x3 Anand just tested.
silverblue - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkLOL... no it's not. I really don't know where you got that from.
Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 - linkIntel E7500, still selling on newegg for $125. AMD Phenom II X2 560 Black Edition is currently $99 yet wins 17 out of 26 tests on anand's own bench, and is about 5% faster overall. So for 20% less you get faster performance, plus the opportunity to unlock a free bonus. But you can bet the intel part still sells 5 times more.